John Eastman, a conservative lawyer working with then-President Donald Trump's legal team, said in a radio interview in early January that then-Vice President Mike Pence had the power to throw the 2020 presidential election to the House of Representatives, saying it depended on whether Pence had "courage and the spine." Those comments are more direct than how Eastman has recently described his conversation with Pence, when he has said he told the vice president it was an "open question" whether he could throw out seven states' Electoral College votes and that it'd be a "foolish" option to pursue.
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